I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? This would be once in a lifetime kind of intense and tender. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! If it has not of yet, it may be a new relationship. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. The chart never lies, my Friend. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. Thats your opinion. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. That doesnt mean youve never been married. It is opinion, not truth. Thank you for your words. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. But I did find out that her Amor conjuncts their Dejanira-Nessus conjunction, so her Dejanira is conjunct her Amor. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. in case his vertex in my moon and ascendant *. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Thank you so much, Love. Thank you, My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? as well as to the signs and houses. and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? Also, It doesnt suit me. How does that play out? Ami, hello. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. Please, keep giving your opinion. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. What does that mean? 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Hi Ami. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. I do charts for the people who want them. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. I would have to consider the scenarios more. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, What would you say about moon conjunct pluto in a composite chart. That is why I dont mince words. Powerful, you say? It is like sky diving. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. It may be off a few minutes and change things. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. Check house placement and aspects to further your . Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. This is not dark sexual, per se. the Moons will make for best friends. It is a pleasure to be here. There is also a near-exact conjunction of his north node to my Eros. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. I suppose I should add that. Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! Is there anything I can do to help her? Your words mean a lot to me! Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. You find them sexually attractive. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. Venus mars aspects And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. Your articles hit me hard again:-). She is deeply alluring and irresistible. Ami is an insightful astrology. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . Hi Amiann She is deeply alluring and irresistible. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. So the theory doesnt check out. You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? "I want to welcome you to my website. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. Is this a synastry, Ariel? And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. Or can my Sun hurt the person. Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. Yes, I was thinking about this. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? Lovely and very filled with passion! Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. Thanks you, Jos. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. I dont do the Draconic. I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. That would be my guess. Sorry for the late reply. It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! Well, I have been thinking about the situation. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. Posts: 9778 From: Death Star . I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. Who is whom? I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. Would you say that a double whammy Nessus OPPOSITE Juno is something dangerous too ? It exposes our weaknesses and provides us a chance to deal with them constructively. This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. What is your opinion on . It is very, very powerful. It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). It is real to be neutral. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. (double-whammy..) Hi Thank you Ariel! Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. We have no moon aspects will this help? Thanks! I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? That is why it feels so life and death. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. And From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. crap. I read some things. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? Good afternoon, thank you for this article If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. Thank you, Amiann. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. Could it be a past life meaning? 1) What does it mean to have dejanira 13 in conjuction with my ascendant 12? The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. Thats not the truth. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. That is why it is so powerful. Yes, it would. ? Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. Hi, What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. Do you see what I mean. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. I never heard of these asteroids, especially being linked to abusers and victims. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. All of astrology is neutral. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. Welcome, Britt. You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant I have to always be honest. Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Not eros. Will be keeping my wits about me. . We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? Thank you again. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. First of all Lilith is for . This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? What would that mean? Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. . With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. That`s very interesting information. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. Can it be dangerous amiann? I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 Youll have to use your judgement here. Retro makes one thoughtful, so I do not see it as bad as many do. Do you have any advice for me? Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. This is not to say it would be better or even easier. I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. Chiron conjunct sun. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. so, quick question, where do I post it? Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. My Nessus square his Venus I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. Partners switch roles? Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? Hardly. Would appreciate some insight!! I found your site a short time ago and learned a lot, very descriptive in the analysis, I love it! This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. Theyre both devoted and kind people and Ive known her since we were teens. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. Thanks :), However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. They have transcended Nessus conj Dejanira, which is a new situation for me to see. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse.
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