The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible) Hi, sweetheart. Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. You know when you see pictures of some of your friends and then pictures of their parents as kids and they look identical? Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. They recorded them. Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. We would've done handstands and cartwheels to. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? Asked if he would have done anything different back then, David replies, kill Shirley Turner.. The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. It turns out Shirley Jane Turner is pregnant. You can reach out to David Bagby-cantu via phone number 915-383-8358. with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yes, ma'am, I am. Coverage from the 2023 Canada Winter Games, VIDEO: Your daily elite-sports highlight package, Making Canada Better: Atlantic Canadians striving for change, 2023 SaltWire Network. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. What kind of headfuck must that be? Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number Help contribute to IMDb. We. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. If she had her way, we would not have had any visitation at, MORRISON: Coming up, fighting not just to see their grandson, but. If it looks like she's likely to go back, how is she going to behave? Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. We don't--we don't gush very much. Oh, my God. MORRISON: And, says T.J., in the way of her opportunities to be. Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. Cpl. This is Defector, a new sports blog and media company. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. Right, right. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. That one comes back a lot. Subscribe here. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. The full hour will not be available online. Play trailer 2:39. Unidentified Woman #11: I love them very much. Cpl. And Kate kissed him and held him and kissed him some more. Cpl. Kate said Shirley insisted on keeping Zachary in, the deep pool, which frustrated him because he couldn't move on his own. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. iTunes | Amazon Prime Video | Google Play, DEAR ZACHARY ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SCORE ALBUM NOW AVAILABLE. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. MORRISON: But then things changed. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) That you aren't trying to take my place. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. This is the kind of couple, themselves beloved by hundreds, that produces the kind of son who is beloved by hundreds. Check your local listings for channel info. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. Bad things tend not to announce themselves, they just kind of land right on your head. I got to go to the trial. Was it a tight bond? MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. ', KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah. Shirley Turner had some startling news. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! get a chance to have some of Andrew again. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL -, "This documentary will rip out your heart and leave you in the snow without a sweater. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book David was a . Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. you have anywhere to put that, or that Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Not yet. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. It's. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. August 5, 2008: (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. She just dropped to the floor and laid down, and, I went down after her. They are simply good people. It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew? You know? "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. Sharing voices. I'm absolutely sure. Dear Zachary recently won the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Best Documentary of 2008 from the Society of Professional Journalists. They still have friends in the province, people Kate said they wouldnt have survived without. The bill has added an amendment to Canada's criminal code giving courts the right to refuse bail to someone charged with a serious crime who is deemed a potential danger to children under the age of 18. They're like, `What do you mean?' ', KATE: He's so loved. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! We thought of him as a hostage, said David. (It was announced, in 2014, that the documentary would be made into a miniseries. And thank God. 1 Photo. You can, just--there's nothing. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. the water. This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. substance to it. She was deranged. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. But that is what the Bagbys. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. Now that Zachary was starting to walk, he was free to make a beeline to. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. It was for custody of their grandchild who looked exactly like his father that they moved to the city of their sons killer. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. Mr. SIMPSON: You don't need to go out with a woman because you can't think you can do better. Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! Bill C-464 when enacted will justify detention in custody for a person accused of a serious crime who is a potential danger to their own minor children. He said, `What do you mean?' You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. flying; Canadian flag flying; Supreme Court of Newfoundland building exterior; photos of Shirley; court document; university building; man talking to, reporters; court documents; Kate and David). His father says, I kissed him and held him. Then, suddenly, tears. Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. This is what that fucking bitch didnt know, David Bagby fumes towards the end of Dear Zachary. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. On December 4, 2009, Bill C-464 (our bail reform bill) was discussed on the floor of the House of Commons for a full hour, and MP Scott Andrews received unanimous support from all political parties in the House of Commons to advance the bill to the Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. That child was Zachary, to whom the film is addressed. Watching the documentary brings up a mix of feelings from joy to hatred. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. Very, very serious. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. Cpl. What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. But the tributes Kuenne collected remain the spine of the movie, alternating throughout with exposition of the murder and its aftermath. MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. Mr. KUENNE: I think he was a little scared of me when I first came up. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? I said, `When do you think you'll be done?'